TLC dominated the charts and offered recognition to millions of women and girls’ woes with shiftless men by releasing “No Scrubs” in 1999. Co-writer Kandi Burruss, TLC member Rozonda “Chilli” Thomas and others discuss the song’s creation and enduring relevance in the latest episode of NPR’s “American Anthem” series.

Listen as Burruss and Thomas break down the song’s journey from drive-time improvisation to the top of the Billboard Hot 100, how it flipped the male-dominated hip hop script of the time and why it still commands attention.