In an era where a celebrity business mogul can win a major party’s presidential nomination, Kanye West‘s proposed 2020 presidential run makes some sense. The rapper, producer, designer and provocateur discussed that presidential campaign, police and gun violence and many other topics in a new BBC Radio 1 interview today (August 1).

"We’re numb to 500 kids getting killed in Chicago a year," he told host Annie Mac. "We’re numb to the fact that [there were] seven police shootings in the beginning of July. We’re numb to places on the Earth where we don’t live. Our life is okay, but it’s okay for other people’s lives to not be okay."

He then segued into his presidential run, discussing his holistic approach while not outright describing himself as a candidate:

When I talk about the idea of being president, I’m not saying I have any political views. I don’t have views on politics. I just have a view on humanity, on people, on the truth. If there’s anything that I can do, in my time and my day, [to] somehow make a difference while I’m alive, I’mma try to do it. Period. 

‘Ye also spoke about his recent collaboration with Adidas to make inexpensive sneakers, as well as a future partnership with furniture giant IKEA. "Yo, IKEA, allow Kanye to create," he said. "Allow him to make this thing because you know what, I want a bed that he makes, I want a chair that he makes—I want more products from ‘Ye."  

Mac also premiered his new single, "Fade," on the program. Listen to a half-hour clip above.