Actress Laverne Cox has never shied away from being a powerful advocate for the trans community. In a recent interview on SiriusXM’s “The Michelangelo Signorile Show,” she talked about how the tentacles of gender policing in this country extend far beyond transgender people.

“Gender is policed in such a way that it does not just affect transgender people. It affects gay-identified men, straight-identified men. And straight-identified men [who are] deeply policed,” Cox said. “As I date a lot of straight-identified men, I’ve seen them so deeply internalize these ideas very rigidly about what it means to be a man—to be a straight man.”

Cox thinks it may take a famous man who dates transgender women to remove that stigma. “Most men who are attracted to and date transgender women are probably stigmatized more than trans women are,” said the “Orange Is The New Black” star. “I think a man who is dating trans women, who is a celebrity, or famous or is an athlete or something, needs to come forward—or a musician—and needs to say, ‘I love transgender women and [they] deserve to be loved and I’m going to declare that publicly.’ I think those men need some sort of inspiration and hope, so they can live more authentically.”